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Post by Seasoned Veteran on Mar 27, 2013 16:28:55 GMT 10
Some people are just losers, Recky. I would think that after this amount of time, you won't be seeing a cent of it again.
It is hard but I would be disassociating myself from the guy.
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Post by hollywood on Apr 23, 2013 10:39:36 GMT 10
Going in for another session of chemo today, fuck it knocks you about! Docs told me that the chemo will buy me some time but they are pretty sure the cancer will return at later time. Got to keep going ya just don't know your luck these days.
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Post by nath on Apr 23, 2013 13:45:20 GMT 10
Between June and August 2010, so that he wouldnt incur some massive interest on a personal loan, I lent my wife,Deb,son (and I thought a mate of mine) a sum of $9,000...for various things , I bought him a car and paid for his fitness first instructor course and for some smash repair to another person that happened in a real bad rain storm when he slid into the rear of someones care (writing off our laser in the process)...in the nearly 3 years since this act of generosity...approximately $100 dollars has been re-paid...Nate works for fitness first (although their pay scale is weird) he his has built a computer for himself from scratch one component at a time, paid for 3 years soccer fees (which aint cheap) doesnt pay board or chip in for the utilities or internet, buys a bit of food for himself only....I have broached the subject a couple of times and Its erupted into a argument, or got a pfft, whatever or promises that he was gonna get a job at star city or join the airforce, neither of these have occured...to put it in perspective...his sister, Sophi's mum, on single parent money, bought our car off us for 3,500 last year and paid it off in nine months..without going anywhere near a bank. SO...what to do...do I just write it off as a bad joke or do I call the fraud squad and get him nicked for taking money under false pretense's..I dont know, I know the stress had me curled up on the bed this morning, so that cant be helping...if anybody has an solution...p.m me ...any thoughts would be appreciated Learn from it, you never lend money.
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Post by HBM on Apr 23, 2013 21:35:38 GMT 10
Going in for another session of chemo today, fuck it knocks you about! Docs told me that the chemo will buy me some time but they are pretty sure the cancer will return at later time. Got to keep going ya just don't know your luck these days. Mate - wish you all the best. Hopefully the docs are just trying to cover all the bases, and you've kicked that thing's ass!
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Post by RECKY on Apr 26, 2013 9:50:01 GMT 10
Going in for another session of chemo today, fuck it knocks you about! Docs told me that the chemo will buy me some time but they are pretty sure the cancer will return at later time. Got to keep going ya just don't know your luck these days. Mate - wish you all the best. Hopefully the docs are just trying to cover all the bases, and you've kicked that thing's ass! Indeed...give it hell fella
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Post by hollywood on Apr 26, 2013 14:36:23 GMT 10
Thanks guys doing the best I can the chemo is making me a little sick. No use crying just gotta take the punches and keep getting up again.
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Post by HBM on Jun 23, 2013 20:58:04 GMT 10
So I was gonna start a thread about this, but thought it fit in here.
This week, my middle daughter, at my ex's insistence, completed the Landmark Education Forum. Right now, I am sitting here, and I am at a loss as to why I allowed this to happen.
My ex did it six months ago, got her friends to do it (a people-pyramid scam?) and one of her friends is now paying for more training to become a leader within this community. It cost $700 for the weekend and basically, the course runs, keeps you in a controlled environment, with one main presenter and a host of volunteers, tells you that your life is not authentic, that you lack integrity (both words they have their own definitions for) and that you must let go of your past in order to embrace who you really are.
Then comes the hard sell, and the worst part is, they enlist your own child to sell it to you. "When are you doing the forum, dad?" my daughter asked me. "Probably never," I replied, and immediately, i was being berated by three of their volunteers. I don't really respond well to the high-pressure sell, but for the sake of my daughter, I remained calm and said I'd think about it.
I already know I am not going to go. I am not searching for anything, and am happy with who I am. Why do I need to find myself when I already like who I am?
Anyway, from what I have seen and heard, it is a group-therapy kind of set up, which by proxy uses peer pressure to get people to buy in. They keep you there long hours, which I already know wears down your resistance and your ability to critically think and analyse when you're tired, and call any attempt to offer a differing opinion as "not getting it" or "a racket" in landmark speak.
Already tonight, I have had two phone calls from representatives from landmark asking if I'll be joining them. Am thinking that this is a huge money-making venture (there were fifty teens in this course today, at $700 a pop... do the maths) and the adult courses have in the realm of 80-130 in a course (again... the maths).
Does anyone know anyone who has done this? What was their outcome? My ex and daughter aside, I've had two friends do the forum. One loved it and still shells out cash for some life plan shit they do, and the other swears it's a cult and says to avoid it at all costs.
So, thoughts?
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Post by nath on Jun 24, 2013 16:55:50 GMT 10
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Post by Stevil420 on Jun 24, 2013 22:32:10 GMT 10
How did the ex get caught up in that strife?
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Post by MrX on Jun 25, 2013 1:30:29 GMT 10
Looks to me like the Ex is looking for emotional/mental support. Unfortunately these snake oil salesmen target the weak, lonely or impressionable. I know it might sound crazy, but I'd sit down & chat with her about the 'magic' pluses & no downside with her. You can do some background on similar groups in the US, so you know what you ar talking about. Secret with talking to women? Don't raise your voice, don't swear, talk calmly & matter o fact & get to the root of why she sought out this pack of vampires.
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Post by Gog77 on Jun 25, 2013 17:16:56 GMT 10
That's exactly what I thought when I read HBM's post. Seriously mate I'd corner your ex missus and question her. Your daughters involvement is a 2way decision and you should have some input in the decisions. IMO this is a cult and I'd be doing everything possible to get your daughter out of it if I were you.
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Post by HBM on Jun 25, 2013 21:36:11 GMT 10
Well, that was a ripping coversation tonight... Had my girls here last night, and I just happened... by sheer coincidence, to be watching S9 of The Simpsons, and it just so happens that in Season 9 there is the episode where the Movementarians take control of Homer. So, in sitting with my three girls, I make parallels between that and this Landmark Place. My daughter is adamant that this is not the way it runs, and that she is too smart to fall for something like that. I agree with her, so I show her this www.caic.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1243&Itemid=12I ask her how much of this kind of stuff happened. She says that a few people got similar treatment to the first woman in the video. I tell her that it's borderline abuse and that the people running the course are not even qualified in anything remotely connected with psychology and have no right to be manipulating people. I told her about my concerns, from putting them in a room with no windows, keeping them long hours to drain them, and using specific language with made up meanings to keep the people (I was close to calling them sheep) in a state of confusion was all a tool to have them latch on to an ideology that was basically geared towards bringing more people in, and therefore, more $. She cried... a lot. So today she went back to school... and back to Mum. At 4.07 I got a phone call which just went for one complete breath from my ex, where she just ripped into me for deflating my daughter. Then she hung up. I went there after work and she was looking for a fight. I just sat calmly and asked specific questions about this Landmark place, and you know... outside the jargon that they were taught, they couldn't actually tell me what they'd learned. My other two daughters, in particular my eldest, sided with me. I asked to speak to their Mum alone, and when the kids left, she gave me a blowjob... not really - just wanted to see if you're still reading. She espoused the greatness of landmark forum. I gave her it's origins, derived from Scientology and Werner Erhard's extreme EST seminars in the 70s. She gave me her new outlokk. I gave her the fact she has just adopted someone else's outlook and called it mimmicking. It was quite civil, and I'd love to give myself credit for that, because inside I was fucking fuming that I would allow her to subject my daughter to these brainwashing cunts, however, yelling about it would've been justification to her that people like me needed to do something like this piece of shit forum. We finished talking and I went to see my daughter in her room. We chatted for a while, and I asked how she was feeling. She said a bit like an idiot. I said that I pay her mum $400 a week, and this is what she spends it on - I feel like an idiot too! Chatted for half an hour and I told her that she doesn't need any crap to make her better. She is in the SEALS program, has the lead in the school musical, is confident, beautiful... all the stuff Dad's say to their little girls. Was then time for me to go and I got some music to my ears. "Dad, can I stay at your house for a few days?" Yes... yes she can.
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Post by mr kek on Jun 25, 2013 22:25:58 GMT 10
Mate, that's handled perfectly. I know I would have been fucking fuming.
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Post by MrX on Jun 25, 2013 22:38:24 GMT 10
Glad it's moving in the right direction.
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Post by Gog77 on Jun 26, 2013 16:57:18 GMT 10
Well handled mate.
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