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Post by Greg on Apr 28, 2011 19:52:59 GMT 10
I suppose I could have put this in the PS3 thread, but this is a more general view across the board. I found out the new Mortal Kombat cant be released in Australia because its too much for MA 15+. Barring the fact that it cant be any worse then the GTA series and God of War, amongst countless others, what are people's thoughts on the fact Australia is yet to get an adult classification?
Personally, its long over due, the ratings are inconsistent anyhow, and its ridiculous that the OFLC STILL think only kids and teenagers play video games.
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Post by mr kek on Apr 28, 2011 20:16:42 GMT 10
Yea, we're a bunch of idiots when it comes to classifying games.
I can't believe we don't have an R rating.
GTA should not be allowed to be played by kids IMO. It should be rated R, not MA.
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Post by nath on Apr 28, 2011 20:34:37 GMT 10
No one should really be all that surprised we don't have clarity on the issue.
It along side our fledging internet access, lack of or slow adoption of true new-media and digital television, supports the argument on how pathetic the Australian government past and present is on social change, which in the late 20th and 21st centuries are significantly represented by electronic media - video games included.
We're ran by a conservative government, regardless of disposition or political party. Which can be a good thing... yet isn't so much when it comes to progress.
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Post by rf on Apr 28, 2011 20:37:33 GMT 10
So are you suggesting allowing children to see more violence and sex is progress?
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Post by Stevil420 on Apr 28, 2011 20:49:45 GMT 10
So are you suggesting allowing children to see more violence and sex is progress? They're basically seeing all that shit now in music f'en videos! See Lady Gaga. |
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Post by nath on Apr 28, 2011 20:57:00 GMT 10
So are you suggesting allowing children to see more violence and sex is progress? No. I'm suggesting the same thing that has been suggested for the better half of 10 years. An R-Rating on video games. In fact one could argue an R-Rating would hinder the sales of highly offensive content to children and those under 18 years of age much the same way pornography and ultra violent videos are restricted. One could also argue that a standardized R-Rating would in turn lead to re-enforcement on the sale of said content. Meaning.. just think back to your childhood for a minute. Remember not being older than 15 years of age and person behind the counter not batting an eyelid when you purchased an ultra-violent video game or hired a rather sexual movie.. rated MA+15? Progress isn't about simply allowing anyone and whoever access to view R-Rated and X-Rated content in this context. It's about allowing the access to content through the correct restrictions and laws, thus allowing the viewer or consumer to use his or her judgement. |
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Post by rf on Apr 29, 2011 10:27:04 GMT 10
So are you suggesting allowing children to see more violence and sex is progress? They're basically seeing all that shit now in music f'en videos! See Lady Gaga. You are absolutely right so my kids are not allowed to watch music videos. I remember the effects music had on me. I have 5 kids who are all happy and friendly with others and each other. I wont allow them to play anything other than Ratchet and Clank type ps3 games Yes we are strict parents in relation to adult content |
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Post by rf on Apr 29, 2011 10:29:36 GMT 10
So are you suggesting allowing children to see more violence and sex is progress? No. I'm suggesting the same thing that has been suggested for the better half of 10 years. An R-Rating on video games. In fact one could argue an R-Rating would hinder the sales of highly offensive content to children and those under 18 years of age much the same way pornography and ultra violent videos are restricted. One could also argue that a standardized R-Rating would in turn lead to re-enforcement on the sale of said content. Meaning.. just think back to your childhood for a minute. Remember not being older than 15 years of age and person behind the counter not batting an eyelid when you purchased an ultra-violent video game or hired a rather sexual movie.. rated MA+15? Progress isn't about simply allowing anyone and whoever access to view R-Rated and X-Rated content in this context. It's about allowing the access to content through the correct restrictions and laws, thus allowing the viewer or consumer to use his or her judgement. I like the idea that adults help protect young minds. As a Kid most of my judgements were wrong R ratings worked mostly when I was a young, as I got older we avoided them. Most of these images leave young people open to exploitation |
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Post by RECKY on Apr 29, 2011 11:05:29 GMT 10
So are you suggesting allowing children to see more violence and sex is progress? Progress isn't about simply allowing anyone and whoever access to view R-Rated and X-Rated content in this context. It's about allowing the access to content through the correct restrictions and laws, thus allowing the viewer or consumer to use his or her judgement. excellent point......i was talking with my cousin the other night and she's banned her oldest ( 13) from watching Big Bang Theory...reason being, one of the characters ( howard) was telling all and asundry how he had troll sex playing world of warcraft...so what did my cousin find her yound fella trying to do ...oh and she's stopped WoW too |
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Post by Greg on Apr 29, 2011 13:06:15 GMT 10
I think thats where the R rating falls down, as that at the end of the day, it comes down the parents. Unfortunately I have a mate who lets his kids play anything, and it does piss me off, but then they arent my kids, so what can you do. But the other aspect is like I said, the rating system is very odd. One minute we get Mortal Kombat banned, the next its okay to release GTA, Splatterhouse (an arcade classic that I played back in 88). I think people would be a little more content if the ratings were more consistent.
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Post by nath on Apr 30, 2011 1:57:50 GMT 10
Excellent point, on that it being the parents responsibility. I've got a cousin with children under the age of 10 and one under the age of 6 who is diagnosed with asperger's syndrome and she allows them to not only play games like Medal of Honor & COD: Black Ops and watch shows like Jackass.. but encourages it. As to quote some bloke on the subject:
In fact, I'm not an expert on the subject. But if the child is under the age of 10, at least.. you'd limit this sort of viewing and content all together.
But this is where the MA+15 rating doesn't work so well anymore. The label means nothing. It doesn't stop parents from buying violent games for children. The R-Rating alone commands much more respect and directly states: the following content is not for children.
And PS. I don't think he's really got Asperger's. The words " little shit who lacks a stable and responsible mother " & " quite possibly the next Hitler " makes a lot more sense when you spend time with this kid.
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Post by RECKY on Apr 30, 2011 9:57:00 GMT 10
hehe...Nath...i had a friend who's little bloke was a virtual tornado of evil....he was telling people that he had ADHD...i was telling people the little bastard had both oars out of the water...sometimes these syndrome come courtesy of the handy dandy excuse society
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Post by MrX on Apr 30, 2011 19:44:03 GMT 10
I told a dumbass father at EB that he shouldn't be buying GTA:San Andreas for his 8 year old son, due to the violence & especially the swearing.
His reply "He's going to hear/see that sort of stuff somewhere..." nice...
I suppose when Mr 8year old uses the "N" word around the playground he can blame Rockstar Games. Either that or he'll get "The Dominator" Carey Heynes style.
Not sure where I sit on the R rating video games.
I generally don't like censorship of things I like - video, movies, TV.
Find it rather dumb I'm 40 & can't buy Mortal Kombat on PS3.
Still, I'm not a fan of loads of OTT swearing in my fave games like GTAIV,
sometimes I think it's a gimmick to be controversial, without much well written content to make the experience exceptional.
Kids (via good parenting) do need to be protected from extreme violence/profanity unti lthey can make their own decision what to watch/play, say by the age of 16/17/18.
With lazy parents the kids could be watching anything...
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Post by nath on May 1, 2011 1:47:49 GMT 10
See Mr.Fist.. censorship is a good thing in this case. One on hand, the R-Rating restricts the access and sale of violent and sexual content to children and those under 18 years of age. Yet on the other hand, it allows for content to be sold in it's original form rather than an edited version. According to boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic/mpaa.htm some of the top grossing R-Rated movies of all time include The Matrix & The Matrix Reloaded, The Hangover, Beverly Hills Cop, 300, Wedding Crashers, Terminator 2: Judgment Day, Scary Movie, etc.. now imagine a United States without the R-Rating and consider how much content from these movies would be removed to be considered a PG-13 or in our case, a MA+15 title. |
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